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WoWphiles Podcast Show #61

Posted on Mar 21, 2011 by: Jason Zimmerman
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Weekly News
We discuss the lack Blizzard developer chat.

What in the WoW is going on?
Modem discusses the current state of the player base in WoW

Icesnake’s Addon Emporium
This week Icesnake brings a collection of familiar addons

The Community Speaks
We mention some of the things that you, our great listeners, had to say this week and read reviews.

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  • http://twitter.com/jasongjohnson Jason

    can you please add the text of Icesnake’s addon emporium for episode 61? or just the names of the addons that are still good. Thanks again!

  • http://twitter.com/WowHoof Taylor Walker

    Had this been the first show I listened to, I would never have hit the subscribe button. I’m not a long time listener, nor a first time listener, but this show seemed very off beat and full of negativity and endless, pointless complaining. Claiming to speak on behalf of the WoW community, it feels like all this episode has done is cry on behalf of the blizzard forum and trade channel trollers. There is too much wrong with all of the rant to cover in a comment, it needs a full discussion. Nearly all of this episode’s ranting is old news and the same issues has, many times for every expansion, been brought up over and over in one ignorant form or another.

    To address the point of casual guilds, friendships and raiding: I am a Glory of the Icecrown Raider, my guild is not. My guild is a casual group of working adults & parents that get together through the week for heroics or pvp, and one day a week we raid for a few hours. We started with Baradin Hold, we moved onto Magmaw and now are working on Omnitron. The progression is slow as the allotted time is minimal to work on it, but we are definitely having fun, rarely have the same 10 people. Never in any expansion has our guild had this fast a progress in current content raiding with only 4 hours a week to go on until Cataclysm.

    Opinions are great, but if I may offer a suggestion; Future pointless rantings should have some kind of time limit, or even its own segment (With an appropriate time limit). Ep 61 was just an out of control and hijacked podcast.

  • http://profiles.google.com/dannyflorida Danny Florida

    I just started listening to WoW podcasts, and I listened to yours for the first time a few days ago. I’ve played WoW for six years now, still love it, and am looking for good podcasts so I can listen to others who love WoW and want to talk about it. The name of your podcast drew me to it. The name WoWphiles made me think this would be a great listen to excite me and make me happy about the game.

    I don’t think I’ll be back. At just over one hour into your podcast, I had to shut it off. I was so disgusted with it. I strongly believe your representation of the playerbase is way off. In my opinion, only a small fraction of players are disgruntled. WoW bloggers, podcasters, their readers and listeners tend to be in a world of their own, and it’s a very small world, perhaps representing just a fraction of one percent of the playerbase. Most people, like myself, are happier than ever with WoW, and I certainly don’t want to listen to the kind of negativity you spewed on your podcast.

    Of course, constructive criticism is welcome every once in awhile. But, I read WoW blogs and websites to get excited to play my favorite game, not to read/listen to people tear it down. I want the same feeling from listening to podcasts. After listening to a WoW podcast, I should feel like I can’t wait to log in again. Listening to your podcast, however, I just wanted to spit.

  • Anonymous

    Jason, I’ll try to get that posted today. Sorry I’m running behind.

  • Anonymous

    Regarding on-board video cards: Usually these use Intel chipsets. While Intel video is fine for business purposes (e.g., editing documents, spreadsheets, and making PowerPoint crap), they are absolutely horrible for games. Either ATI/AMD or Nvidia video cards are the way to go for games. While I prefer Nvidia, I recognize that it’s largely a matter of personal opinion; if you like ATI better, get a Radeon. Go with 1GB or video RAM or better if you possibly can. There’s no such thing as too much memory.

    Either way, if you’re using on-board video, you are unlikely to get the best possible performance.

  • http://twitter.com/jc03436 John Doe

    @Taylor-Walker and @Danny Florida .. Go cry me a river. You guys want a podcast that merely reiterates your view of things. Go listen to any number of the other podcasts that kiss Blizzard’s ass with reckless abandon.

    Modem’s rant echoed my sentiments of the game entirely. Perhaps you need someone to reinforce the belief that your game is still fun, but as someone who played since the beginning and has quit the game, I rarely if ever see or hear a podcast that echos my views. I’m sorry if they decided to go off the approved prescribed mantra of “YEAH BLIZZARD!!!” for one week. Friggin’ children.

  • http://twitter.com/jc03436 John Doe

    @Taylor-Walker and @Danny Florida .. Go cry me a river. You guys want a podcast that merely reiterates your view of things. Go listen to any number of the other podcasts that kiss Blizzard’s ass with reckless abandon.

    Modem’s rant echoed my sentiments of the game entirely. Perhaps you need someone to reinforce the belief that your game is still fun, but as someone who played since the beginning and has quit the game, I rarely if ever see or hear a podcast that echos my views. I’m sorry if they decided to go off the approved prescribed mantra of “YEAH BLIZZARD!!!” for one week. Friggin’ children.

  • http://twitter.com/jc03436 John Doe

    I can only assume that the reason that there is no podcast this week is because they are rethinking themselves because they were honest with the community. God I hope they don’t retool and return to kissing Blizzard’s ass full-time.

  • http://twitter.com/jc03436 John Doe

    I can only assume that the reason that there is no podcast this week is because they are rethinking themselves because they were honest with the community. God I hope they don’t retool and return to kissing Blizzard’s ass full-time.

  • Arrowtipz

    Hey there Jason, you may or may not see this, and you may or may not remember me, but its Arrowtipz, and I couldnt help myself this week and even though I dont play WoW anymore your site has remained bookmarked this whole time, andd now that I’m listening again…..I want to play again…….OMG.

  • Jim

    Hi…. First time listening to the show was episode 61. I am a new WOW player and have been superpsyched about the game. I have been learning a ton by listening to those players who have been around the block. There are some great podcasts out there. I am close to getting to endgame content on my priest.

    I have to say that this podcast can ruin a wet dream. This was a negative-cast from the rant to the answers given to email questions. I thought I had gotten the wrong podcast because “phile” means a love of.

    Maybe I am a stupid noob, but I wouldn’t pay a monthly fee for something that I didn’t like. If you don’t like the game, why not make a RIFT podcast or something.

    Thanks for raining on my enthusiasm!

    Jim

  • http://twitter.com/WowHoof Taylor Walker

    “John Doe” you fail to grasp a simple concept and mask yourself behind a cloak of anonymity while trying to troll. Congratulations on passing your first test for internet douche-baggery.

    I’ll attempt to reiterate the point of it for a social troglodyte such as yourself. My original post was constructive and thoughtful, but your reply is nothing short of a Blizzard forum moron.

    While recently new to the podcast, maybe around 10 episodes, this has been a quality podcast up until episode 61 despite Modem’sprevious gripes or rantings, which in my limited experience were, if nothing else, a productive or insightful look at what is wrong and could be fixed. Episode 61, however, turns an informative (positive and negative) quality audio production into a venue for out-lashing, blame, and a call out for unearned imaginary entitlement.

    It is funny how you will call me out for being not only a child but a Blizzard fan-boy, when I’m not the one making the podcast. If you don’t like the game: MOVE ON (It appears you have, but Modem has not).
    Don’t lure people in with a quality product (this podcast, prior to Episode 61) just to turn around and use an audience for a pointless soapbox rant. I am sure the listening community can respect a position of a show’s lost interest and either move on with the host’s new interest or continue to enjoy themselves without them.

    You, “John Doe”, need a self-check. It seems you listen to WoW podcasts just waiting for the day that “WoW Finally Sucks… I was right all along and the first to understand that WoW would fall”. Based on the opinion of 1 podcaster voicing only the opinions of disgruntled quitters like yourself.
    Move On.

    @WoWPhiles: I hope you are able continue to make a quality audio product that is enjoyable, regardless of the topic.

  • http://twitter.com/jc03436 John Doe

    I am amazed that so many fans are so shocked and shaken when a long-time player of the game suddenly finds fault with the game. You don’t know how prevalent this sentiment is with the player base. All the QQ posts on the forums since Cataclysm’s launch, fewer people in Stormwind or Orgrimmar, friend’s lists looking empty. All those things seem to indicate that something is indeed wrong with the game. I’m sorry if it breaks your hearts to hear someone acknowledge these things in the form of a podcast.

    The reason Modem said those things is because he loves the game. Hell, I loved (notice past tense) it too. The fact that Blizzard week after week says nothing is wrong shows the great schism in how the game is perceived today. You want these guys to get up there week in and week out and reaffirm that the game is great. Just like with Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy, you eventually have to come to grips with the fact that your idolized little game isn’t perfect. Blizzard does not walk on water, nor is their product perfect.

    Sorry so many of you get butt hurt sad when someone points out the faults with the game… Knowing these guys they will backtrack on their sentiments about the game and it will return to the Blizzard fanboy love page 24×7… but it was nice for a time, to see that people’s frustration with the game is shared by many others.

    Back to your regularly scheduled podcast… next week most likely.

  • Jim

    Although I am new to WOW, I am not new to the world. I am a 40 year old professional who has experience in everything from IT to Marketing. I am far from believing that Blizzard has created the ultimate, perfect game. I also believe that Modem is probably accurate in his assessment.

    What drove me to post was NOT Blizzard and WOW, but the fact that the attitude presented to a first time listener of the podcast was so negative. That’s all. And hey, it’s their podcast! If they want to present the bad side of WOW, more power to them. John Doe is a fan of that and I am sure there are plenty of others that enjoy sharing in misery. I was just pointing out that there is a perception created when you have this type of episode. Anyone new to Wowphile is going to get a very negative impression.

    Me, I am going to give the podcast another shake. I am guessing this episode was more of an anomaly. The saving grace of this episode, Icesnakes Add-on Emporium #51!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1344954278 Alexia Vasquez

    I have to agree with Modem.I loved the game too but I just stopped playing and closed one of my three accounts. I kept the other two for my kids but even they are barely playing anymore. WOW is starting to show it’s age, it’s time to let it die. I’ll keep listening to the Podcast because the hosts are articulate and informative.

  • http://wowgu.ru Marazm Z

    The reason Modem said those things is because he loves the game. Hell, I loved (notice past tense) it too. The fact that Blizzard week after week says nothing is wrong shows the great schism in how the game is perceived today. Never in any expansion has our guild had this fast a progress in current content raiding with only 4 hours a week to go on until Cataclysm.

  • http://dptlc.blogspot.com/ Mr.Phallus

    OMFG! That was a long and painful rant! I hope this isn’t your day job! Seriously The point you were making can probably be done in 5 minutes. You just repeated the same sentences again and again and again and again and again and again and again (Get it?) for an hour.

    It’s the first time I listen to this podcast and I don’t care if the entire world tell me this is the best podcast ever I ain’t listening to an other show! Hell! To make sure that I never listen to it again, intentionally or by mistake, not only will I delete it but I’ll be doing a secure deletion of my entire HDD before putting it in the microwave for about an hour…

    The spontaneous mobs invading a town sounds so great! It almost gave me an erection! Not expecting Blizz to come up with something like that anytime (ever) soon. It seem that Blizz’s way of “fixing” the game includes charging $ for some new services and giving more free/freaking expensive pet thingy.

  • Saxxen

    Sooooo on twitter modem said that you guys planned on recording on thursday…..of last week……well did you record? He also said there was a surprise…..sooo the surprise is?

  • http://profiles.google.com/javierdlopez Javier Lopez

    So… It’s been a couple of weeks and no show? C’mon guys, you don’t get someone addicted to your show then stop doing it regularly.. LOL

    Hope all is well with you guys. We miss you guys!

  • Kegtapper

    Hello? Anyone out there? Is there a show anymore?

  • Mathwow46

    i knwo im like crossing my fingers to what is goin on to have a new show listen to them all the time but is just stops at 61 which is a bad way to end the show and i sented in a segment that might me useful for people who are very new to the game

  • Mathwow46

    i think thre is no more of the best 2 podcast host of wow anymore let all bow our head is silence

  • Eliana

    Hey Guys!!
    We’ve been missing your podcasts!! Is something wrong? Why are you not broadcasting anymore? Our family hopes that you guys are ok and will surprise us with another awesome podcast very soon.

  • Yellowenzo

    Can u two grow up and post something for the fans of the show? Just tellem all you gave up the game.

  • absolute zero

    I just read on modems twitter that they are burnt out a bit, and have another podcast going, the show is on a break. No normal shows for now. so i guess just keep checking back.

  • Eliana

    Thanks for the info man. l appreciate knowing this fact as l really do miss their podcast. Cheers

  • Mathwow46

    yea same here

  • http://twitter.com/jc03436 John Doe

    What? No victory lap for WoWphiles leading the way in how/why Cataclysm has sucked up until now? I assume we’ve all seen the news. Blizzard reported losing over 600k subscribers in the first 4 months of Cataclysm (through March) in their earnings call. They did not include April and to this point in May.

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2293-WoW-Loses-600k-Subscribers-Diablo-3-Beta-Q3-2011-Arena-Passe-Blue-Posts

    Way to keep it real guys, not being swayed by fanbois.

  • Knonfodder

    What’s the lyric? “I used to be disgusted, but now I’m just amused….” I should be astounded  by the obliviousness of,posters who ranted about the negativity of one specific episode of a podcast. Let’s hope they aren’t listening to any other podcasts or reading wow websites; their champagne dreams and caviar wishes are likely to be annihilated.
    Let’s see… besides the Wowphiles gang feeling burned out and taking a break (following an episode where Modem laments the overwhelming negativity he is encountering in the game and how it’s bringing him down) we also have…

    All Things Azeroth, in which Shade points out how the game (and LFD in particular) is getting dragged down by an overabundance of dicks (her word, not mine).

    Derevka gave up on his Tales of a Priest blog, including among his list of issues that “there is an undeniable certain something in the WoW Community
    that just feels negative.”

    Matthew McCurley of WoW Insider, who on a recent podcast asserted that, after being sufficiently victimized in LFG’s, was going to automatically NEED on items when possible, because he had had enough.

    Matthew Rossi, also of WoW Insider, has repeatedly said he refuses to queue as a tank for randoms due to the behavior of those he meets in them.

    There are more, and the slimmest of saving graces came on a recent “Th Instance,” when Scott Johnson pointed out the Playstation online community was worse.

    I find that to be a little like trying to be cheerful about brain cancer because it isn’t the Ebola virus.

    So keep attacking the messengers because you don’t like the message, but remember you do so at your own risk. Walt Kelly said it as well as anyone when he put these words into the mouth of his character, Pogo: “We have met the enemy and he is us.” The douchebaggery is out of control and it is undermining the soundness of the game. Blame Blizzard if you must for their contributions to encouraging (rewarding?) poor behavior online (they have had over FORTY toons named “Nigrig” listed in the armory for months; are you going to tell me that NOBODY at the company noticed?), but remember we’re the ones actually playing the game. Nobody forces you to be a jerkwad.

    What we’re seeing isn’t just a natural burnout, but a response quite similar to one we make after touching something hot unexpectedly. We choose to avoid it. We certainly aren’t going to pay a monthly fee to feel disappointed and abused. Like families that fled urban decay and blight for grassier suburbs, what you are seeing and hearing in WoW today is the beginning of gamer flight.

    Whatever the Wowphiles gang is doing now, I hope they’re having fun. That, after all, is what playing a game is all about. And should they find a way to find the fun in WoW again, I hope they tell us in this podcast. I always enjoyed their honest take on the game, even when I didn’t agree.

    Cheers, guys.

     
     

  • Ricopetro3120

    Hi I hear more and more of this diatribe and the title of this blog says it all it is time for you to retire as a person that has only been playing for a little over a year and I log on for at least 4 hours a day during the week and 10-18 a day hours during the weekend. I like the game and your endless rambling about the evil Blizzard corp is evidence that you need to quit and move on to rift or guild wars or something this is posted on June 22nd and I see the podcast is from March…maybe I am too late with this suggestion. I listened to some of the older shows and you discussions on strategy and game mechanics made me want to listen to your newer posts only to find the rantings of a simpering wimp..you should be ashamed of ruining a good show

  • http://www.facebook.com/richard.tietjens Richard Tietjens

    @twitter-198017504:disqus  (if that *is* your name…): It should be noted that Rift came out during the time frame of Cata, and historically, some WoW players have wandered off every time a new MMO hit the digital streets. The vast majority of them come back.
    And honestly, while 600K sounds like a lot of players, remember that it’s 600K of 12 million. Most MMOs out there would give 10 years of their founder’s lives to have 600K players, much less 12 million.

    Yes, I’m still playing WoW. And loving it. There are things I would change, sure. It does not follow that what I would change needs changing to make WoW continue to be a success. 

  • bigpnut

    Next expansion. Return of The Lich King.